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2005-11-29

:: Hub Bub

It's been a while since i posted anything about the media hub stuff, so i figured i should at least provide an update.

The Roku Photobridge is still pretty good. It's suitable for doing what i needed it to do (show pictures on the TV and play MP3s) but it's severely lacking in a great many other departments. In some respects, i'm not surprised. It's simply that i've come to the same conclusion i reached a while ago.

In a nutshell, to do what i want, i need Windows XP in my living room.

Why XP?
In the future, all media will have DRM. Most already does. If i want to play my Y!Launch station, i need something that can handle WMA9 DRM. If i wanted to stream any iTunes i'd purchased, i'd need Apple's DRM.

This isn't a question of Linux "catching up". Microsoft and Apple will not produce a binary install for every variant form of Linux and window manager out there. There's no common platform. It's not going to happen.

Macs are great for Apple stuff, but again, you're not going to get WMA10 or beyond on it. There is a chance that Microsoft could bundle a OS* version of their players, (since Apple at least has a common platform), but since it's a niche market, it's not going to be a top priority.

Finally, Win2K is dead. XP is the current baseline. i'm not happy about that, but it's out of my control. Fortunately, XP doesn't have all of the onerous limiting factors that Vista will have, so it's a fair baseline to work with. CE is not really an option either since it's heavily customized and cumbersome to work with.

So, starting off, your initial base cost of a living room media player is $80.

Hardware:
The good news here is that you can skimp. You need a local hard drive, 512MB of memory (1GB preferred), USB 2.0 and video out. The CPU doesn't have to be much more than 800MHz for heavy video processing, and far less for most applications. Most Mini-ITX systems will fit the bill for this, provided you get one silent and cool enough to put in the living room. Not really an easy task, but possible. i'd also recommend a bluetooth keyboard and mouse even though it potentially means more crap in the living room. Fortunately you'll probably just need the mouse.

Here's also where the USB ports really come into play. There are a number of devices coming to market which provide media services and plug into USB connections. This should free up that sole ISA slot for a nice, high-end video card for whatever HDTV you want to drive from it.

Network:
Again, i still strongly recommend getting an external network adapter that plugs into a 100bT card. This will allow you to upgrade outside of the core equipment. g may be cheap and fast now, but n is just around the corner, and who knows? You may just run that cable/fiber yet. This is also why you want a reasonably beefy CPU and local storage so that you can stream and pre-buffer content before playing. Suddenly keeping your DVD movies on a central server seems plausable, no?

Finally, getting a dedicated device is moderately attractive, up until you hit the point where you want to do something else with it. It will happen. Solve the problem by putting a PC in there and it becomes less of an issue.

i figure the cost will be around $500, with a little creative shopping and Moore's Law.

So, there's the game plan. Now all i need to do is build it and sneak it into the living room before Anne Marie figures it out. Kinda sucks that i can't get a simpler (cheaper) dedicated device, but for what i want, i just can't seem to find one.

i did find one thing, though. Remember how i was looking for a fairly good alarm clock? i found it, and yes, it costs $300. No, i'm not getting it.

  1. 2005-11-29 11:04:31
    I too have been lamenting the aging of 2k, since it's by far the most stable and agreeable OS I've worked on. It'd be nice if there were a stable, well-supported Linux out there to use, but so far it hasn't happened. By the way, you should ask Camdon about the media system he has in his living room. Tres spiff. Does, I think, what you're looking for it to do, and he built it himself.
  2. rr
    2005-11-29 12:44:22
    You don't need XP for DRM (you don't need it in the living room, at least). The system-on-chips can do DRM. The Buffalo plays DRM'ed WMA. Haven't tried WMV.
  3. 2005-11-29 16:26:39
    Well, the current version does. Thing is, while those systems are fairly good, they're not quite as future proof as I'd like. Think of it this way, right now I like to listen to YME. In order to listen to it via the Buffalo, I'd need to tie up a broadcasting PC that may do nothing more than bounce the data through. That means that I can't be connected to the VPN and stream music to the living room. If I'm going to do that, it makes about as much sense to simply run a protected PC logged in to YME directly. Likewise, let's say that new codex comes out for Spiffy Format™ which compresses lossless highbandwidth media down to 3kps or something. What do you think the likelihood would be for Buffalo to release a patch to run Spiffy? Plus, I could always run the lastest version of Myth or WMC on it if I wanted a semi-pretty interface, or run the latest firefox and get all the joy of layered vectors or flash if I wanted to go fully custom.
  4. 2005-11-29 21:11:56
    Ugh. Microsoft infiltrates the livingroom.
  5. rr
    2005-11-29 21:22:42
    By the time Spiffy Format comes out, you buy the next $150 hub which has the chipset to do it. My swearing at Gates will not be allowed outside our office.
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